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Ktarh Info

So, here I will write about the basic information concerning the Ktarh language.

Morphosyntactic Alignment: Nominative-Accusative
Head Position: Head-Final
Type: Inflectional, Derivational, Semi-Agglutinative
Genders: Three (Masculine, Feminine, Mechanoid)
Animacies: Four (Sentient, Critter, Inanimate, Dead)
Cases: Twenty-Eight
List of Cases:

1.Nominative
2.Genitive
3.Dative
4.Accusative
5.Vocative
6.Instrumental
7.Locative
8.Reflexive
9.Intrative
10.Inessive  
11.Subessive
12.Ablative  
13.Allative
14.Delative
15.Elative
16.Illative  
17.Sublative  
18.Perlative
19.Prosecutive
20.Antessive
21.Abessive
22.Revertive
23.Identical
24.Ornative
25.Adventive  
26.Possessive
27.Partitive
28.Anessive

Noun Numbers : Two (Singular and Plural)
Verb Tenses : Eight
List of Tenses :

1.Present Simple
2.Past Simple
3.Past Aorist
4.Pluperfect of Action
5.Future Simple
6.Past Periodic
7.Present Periodic
8.Future Periodic

Verb Voices: Four
Voice List:

1.Active Voice
2.Static Passive Voice
3.Dynamic Passive Voice
4.Mediopassive Voice

Verb Moods: Eight
Mood List:

1.Indicative Mood
2.Generic Mood
3.Speculative Mood
4.Imperative Mood
5.Conditional I
6.Conditional II
7.Obligative Mood
8.Impositive Mood

Verb Aspects: Two
Aspect List:

1.Perfective Aspect
2.Imperfective Aspect

Adjective Comparation:

Comparation:

Basic Level, Four Positive comparation levels, Five Negative comparation levels.
Here is the basic info concerning Kti, essentially a list of all the basic features.
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JaiLatte Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is a good way to organize things. I must make something like this for Hseishch as well, as its grammer is sparse and confusing. XD
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I made the list to bring the vital points together xD I can't find half of my work if I don't look under the pile of rubbish/papers (choose whichever you please, both apply to the same XD)
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JaiLatte Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Haha! I can imagine. I keep all mine in a journal. Luckily. And I've kept a table of contents in the back. Veeeeery handy. XD
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jmaiocchi Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2011
This looks really interesting. :) Question: do the cases agree with gender, number, and animacy? If not, how do you combine morphemes to produce your desired results? Are there any combinations which are not permissible, or can you make use of multiple cases and/or genders, numbers, and animacy to provide deeper or more complex meanings?
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Answer: Yes, cases agree with gender, number, animacy and sometimes the last consonant XD
I haven't had much time to work on derivation, but in general, a quarter of those cases require combining cases and morphemes. You can combine various morphemes simmilar as in German, maybe even more than so. I think that nonsence is inherently forbidden (Colourless green gasses sleep loudly and furiously), but I might add something else later on.
Thanks :)
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ImaginaryMdA Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Come on folks! just try to look past the intimidating list of cases!
As you said your self, Tolkien didn't have wikipedia, so neither should you need one to create a beautiful language!
I believe this is called either, mere quantity or a kitchen-sink!
No offense though, because very often the second conlang is a kitchen-sink, of course if this was your first, well done, you've skipped your first conlang! but don't get stuck in this step of the process!
(don't mind pointing at me, I'm still busy with my first, and I know very well that it has its numerous flaws!)
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is my first conlang :D It started as a KSL but I had/have a good mentor to tell me that what I was doing = crap :D
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ImaginaryMdA Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I'm glad you're not mad at me, but I thought it should've been said,
and who's the mentor, and where can I find his conlanguages?
I'd love to see some established conlangs,
(other than of course thé one and only, and amazing, and awesome, and really in need of so much more praise, Tolkien's conlangs)
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Mentor: [link]

He has only one conlang.

My conlang: [link]
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ImaginaryMdA Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
ow, of course I know your Mentor, but don't know how I feel about Umbrian though, it's I guess a wholely different style of conlanging...
with the declensions, and such, wouldn't you agree that that is not needed in all languages, certainly not in all alien languages?
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, I admit some things that are alien should be so, but he's doing a fantastical story about magic in the same world, so I'd say it's allright.
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ImaginaryMdA Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
it probably is great, without a doubt! But it takes some getting used to the different style,
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Also, KSLs are a good way to start. You first put in all the crap you find, then slowly crop away the features until it gets just right ;)
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HeronsCry Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
@ _ @ WOW, so detailed! Sadly, I don't understand half of the features due to the fact English is not my primary language, and that my knowledge concerning conlangs and languages (and their features) is rather small... But it's impressive, I wish I could appreciate it in its full beauty.
Where do I learn all this from ; _ ;' And, ohgod, 12 consonants only?!
This deserves a lot more than a fave, but that's all I can give.
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks anyway!
The phonology (vowels and consonants) are somewhere in my gallery.
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HeronsCry Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No problem, I've seen that already :) It really makes me want to work on my conlangs, but I usually don't know where to start or what else to add. I am making up things according to what I learn at school (I take English and French) - I copy and modify the kinds of tenses and whatnot else I learn. I'm not sure if it's a good way, but it's the only way now for me. Any tips would be greatly appreciated! :heart: ;)
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I started off far worse than you :D
Since I'm German, English is not my main language, but it's not too hard (German is harder). Remember this: Tolkien and his kind didn't have wikipedia!
A good start is [link]
On the right you have a list of various features. I took quite a lot from there
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HeronsCry Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, a neighbour! I'm from Poland :D
And oh wow, thanks for the link! It'll really help me to understand and come up with new things! :glomp:
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No problem! That's how I started, at least.
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Nefarious-Fox Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2011
0_0

I'm not even sure what I'd do with so many cases! I have no cases at all. No genders either, and an extremely weak tense system.
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have 12 consonants and 6 vowels D: I'm currently stuck at adjectives because I can't think of enough affixes.
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Nefarious-Fox Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2011
My language doesn't have any adjectives at all. Though this comes at dire consequences. Let me see, consonants... oh yeah. 21 of those (probably a few extra as morphemes if I'm being strict) and five vowels with a few dipthongs for good measure. Although because my language uses an orthography rather than a perfectly phonetic writing system, I've never bothered to keep perfect track of all of them. Frankly I just don't like diacretics. So I live with the irregularities.

Only 12 consonants! I commend you, sir! How do you maintain such a complex case system with such a sparse phonology?
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You have to be creative >.>
Simple suffixes don't work, neither do prefixes (and I have no articles D:), so a bit of creativity and sillyness is recommended.
Oh, and ortography-wise, my language fails, since I use three letters to write six vowels XD
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Iratarkon Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2011
**stares** I don't know what half of those noun cases are...
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think two, three of the cases are original xD
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Iratarkon Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2011
That's impressive, what do they do?
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Most tell you something moves XD
The reflexive functions as a reflexive marker (like pronouns but nouns!), others I forgot, there's some silly stuff there, tho
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Iratarkon Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2011
Something moves? I don't follow.

That's cool. So a case meaning that the noun is both subject and direct object?

You forgot D: that's not good.
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have a list somewhere, though.
Moves, as in moving under, over, through, from, towards, away from XD
Reflexive, yeah. Sometimes even indirect XD
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Iratarkon Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2011
That's just crazy. I'm impressed.

The same case or a different one?
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Rostov-na-don Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The reflexive case itself functions as a marker of ... reflexiveness xD
It says that the subject is the noun and the object is the noun, it doesn't matter if indirect or direct XD
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